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Autor supreME, 31 Listopad 2019, 14:49:05

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2600

Za sada ništa od spajanja. Blokirala EU. Pretpostavljam iste one protestantske države koje ne podnose katolički jug. U pravilu se radi o Danskoj i Nizozemskoj. Nije bili jedno spajanja ili preuzimanja francuskih kompanija od strane talijanskih da te iste osobe nisu blokirale.

Njima je sporno što bi nova kompanija imala 35% LCV tržišta u EU. FCA i PSA imaju 2 dana za to riješiti ili ih čeka 4 duga mjeseca analiza.

Memphis

Ne sviÄ'a mi se to kaj idu sa PSA.

Mike20

Pa zaÅ¡to ti s ne sviÄ'a  :roll2:
Plus je Å¡to imaju puno modela, dobru bazu.
Minus im je motorizacija, elektronika  :haha7:

2600

Dobra baza kod PSA? Eno automobili na CMP gube sve usporedne testove protiv MQB A0 i CMF-B auta.

Mike20

Sve je dobro što ima više modela od Fijata

eM.

Fiatu sad nedostaju novi, moderniji motori. Sad ih izvlaci sporazum s Teslom da ne placaju penale za CO2 ali vjerojatno bi im bilo jeftinije i lakse da se spoje s PSA i od njih uzmu motore. Treba im neki mali benzinac s malo CO2 da osvjeze Pandu i mozda za novu generaciju Punta.
Ne bih imao nista protiv novog Punta na bazi Clia s 1.0 turbo benzincem :).

Mike20

Ni novi ne valjaju kamo rabljeni. Kad utipkaÅ¡ riječ VTI ili hdi u Google, odmah uz to automaCki dobiÅ¡ riječ problem  :haha7:

2600

Što se tiče 1.6 EP motora od PSA taj je pokazao gomilu problema. Riječ je o Princeu.
Za novi 1.2 ne znam iako mi je neko napomenuo da je bilo i pucanja blokova.  :oo:

Å to se tiče novih motora baÅ¡ je FCA u procesu uvoÄ'enja novih GSE motora. 1.0 i 1.3 atmo, te 1.0 i 1.3 turbo sa MultiAir III dok bi 1.5 dogodine trebao doći kao DOHC. Isto tako je u tijeku elektrifikacija. Å to kao 12V BSG/P0 MHEV za dno ponude, P2.5 48V MHEV za sredinu, te na konci P4 PHEV kao vrhunac ponude u modelima sa prednjim pogonom.

Isto tako je FCA dosta aktivna u razvoju novih modela na Small Wide platformu. Jeep model veći od Compassa, Alfa Tonale i novi Fiat Doblo koji bi trebao imati i BEV varijantu.
U razvoju je i 3 do 5 crossovera u B segmentu na FCA platformi. Pretpostavljam isto neka Small Wide verzija. Tako ne vjerujte pričama koje kažu da će biti na PSA platformu.

Inače meni najbizarnija stvar kod PSA benzinskih motora je što nemaju hidropodizače. Nego je stara loša mehanika.


Mike20

Istina. Fiat ima MA, a ovi na mehanici.
Fiat zadovoljava Euro6 norme bez spremnika urina  :haha7:

Ako GSE i nije na brzinu sklepan, definitivno se bolji motori od PSA.

eM.

Hm, skroz su mi promakli novi 1.0 i 1.3 motori. Na papiru izgledaju dosta obecavajuce. Izgleda da ce onda imati dosta novih zanimljivih modela :).

2600

Tehnički, PSA se pripaja unutar FCA. FCA mijenja ime u Stellantis. Poništavaju se dionice PSA, prestaje postojati.

https://www.groupe-psa.com/fr/document/prose-cross-border-merger-terms-executed-conformed-signatures/

Mike20

 :oo:
ÄŒek, znači naziv PSA grupacije viÅ¡e ne postoji uopće, znači sad je to sve FCA  :oo:
Francuzi osim Renola, talijani+ameri, Opel-jel i (dio) GM tu?

2600

Citat: Mike20  u 29 Listopad 2020, 08:18:58
:oo:
ÄŒek, znači naziv PSA grupacije viÅ¡e ne postoji uopće, znači sad je to sve FCA  :oo:
Francuzi osim Renola, talijani+ameri, Opel-jel i (dio) GM tu?

Formalno PSA prestaje postojati, FCA samo mijenja ime.

ÄŒak bi se po ovom dokumentu jedno kratko vrijeme PSA trebala zvati FCA France.

Kao što znamo FCA već ima FCA US i FCA Italy.

I onda za kraj ide preimenovanje u Stellantis sa podružnicama US, Italy i France. FCA mijenja ime.

2600

Merger of Peugeot S.A. with and into Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V.
(incorporated in the Netherlands as a naamloze vennootschap)
TO BE RENAMED
Stellantis N.V
https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/investors/stock_info_and_shareholder_corner/shareholder_meetings/FiatDocuments/2021/Extraordinary_General_Meeting_January_2021/US_Prospectus.pdf

Ako se kopa po dokumentu vidi se da je vlast (barem na neko vrijeme u rukama Agnellija.

Evo za što je sve zadužen John Elkann:

Stellantis Board Regulations provide that, in addition to the Chairman’s other powers set out in Stellantis Board
Regulations, if the Chairman is an executive Director, he or she will be consulted and work together with the CEO on that
basis on important strategic matters affecting Stellantis:
• budget/long-term strategic planning;
• mergers and acquisition transactions, including significant joint-ventures, investments and divestments;
• strategic evolution of the brand portfolio and significant product investment;
• appointments, succession planning and compensation for key positions in the global executive committee;
• institutional relationships, including relationships with key governmental stakeholders, particularly on matters
of strategic significance;
• significant public relations matters and major communication events/topics;
• interaction with principal shareholders and key partners; and
• providing leadership to the Stellantis Board and, in crisis circumstances, to the executive management on
governance matters and ad hoc crisis management,
in each case, without prejudice to the powers of the Stellantis Board

2600

Opel will cut more jobs in 2021 â€" engineers in their sights

Citat:In any case, Lohscheller is increasing the pace of cutting 2100 jobs by 2021 and wants to define new so-called “focus areas” in Rüsselsheim before the closing of the mega merger, according to corporate circles. Specifically, the manager wants to cut dozens of positions in Process & Manufacturing Engineering (PME), for example.

Opel explained: “There are currently discussions about assigning one or the other further department to the focus areas in order to be able to offer the employees who work there expanded offers as part of the volunteer programs. But there are no decisions. “

Several departments are on the hit list
If the personnel cuts have so far mainly affected specialists and administrative employees, the focus is now on engineers. The reason for this is the foreseeable excess capacities in development at Stellantis. Both PSA and FCA each bring a good 18,000 engineers into the network. Ferdinand Dudenhöffer, Head of the Center of Automotive Research (CAR), considers “at least one third” of the 36,000 positions to be obsolete.

The Opel development center ITEZ in Rüsselsheim is particularly under pressure. On the one hand because of the comparatively high wage costs in Germany. On the other hand, because Fiat has more know-how in the area of ​​light commercial vehicles, for example, and Opel could take over the group-wide development competence here. The same applies to the certification of vehicles for the US market. “In the end there is hardly more than a design department left,” Dudenhöffer believes.